The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Very, very important interview in a few moments with Peter Navarro, the great Peter Navarro, who was friendly, was friends with Phyllis Schlafly, my old boss, for, I don’t know, 15 years. Long before he became famous for all his good work in the White House. An extraordinary guy, a really incredible career he’s had before that. And we’ll talk with Peter Navarro. He’s got a new book out. The book is called In Trump Time: a Journal of America’s Plague Year. He’s really a cool guy. It’ll be interesting to talk to him.
And then we will also have a chance to visit with another great person. Terry Beatley is the pro life leader who has been so extraordinary in focusing her effort on teaching people about what’s happened to the greatest abortionist in the world. His name is Dr. Bernard Nathanson. Now he’s deceased. Terry Beatley, pro life activist, met him. He had become pro life, but he had done abortions forever. And she started the Hosea Initiative, hoseaforyou.org. We’ll talk with her and get an update on pro life issues and a lot more.
But today, what you need to know what is so important right now, and what I want to talk about, there’s a couple of things that I just need to tell you – what you need to know – how to understand things and you’re getting lost by the narrative machine which tries to distract you and spin you and all.
And so you have seen, I assume, over the last few days that there was a story that the ACLU had sued the United States government on behalf of illegal aliens who came here with their kids and were separated from their kids. And they filed lawsuits, the ACLU, an American legal nonprofit. They filed lawsuits on behalf of illegal aliens who, again, came here illegally, they admit that, and were separated from their kids. Now, I guess there are some that claim they’re getting, they could get asylum. But I think that’s not established.
But anyway, be that as it may, people that came here with their kids, they were told not to do that. They came anyway and they were separated from kids. The ACLU says you must pay us damages, pay these people damages. You the American government must pay damages to non American citizens who broke the law in order to, what? Make them whole now or something like that. Okay.
So the news came out, the ACLU said, we are now suing the federal government, the federal government that’s now headed (Department of Justice) by people who agree with us on illegal aliens and on all this stuff. So we think we might get a good deal. Now, let’s pause. Let me explain something to you that you may be missing. When the federal government is taken over by a new President, the new President becomes the executive and therefore the name, the party, in all of the litigation that is going on against the government. Right?
So Donald Trump was sued by the ACLU because he was present. When he doesn’t become President, the President is now Joe Biden. He is sued. The Department of Justice, which is now headed by Merrick Garland and number two is Lisa Monaco. They are now the ones who are responding. This is why what happens is when a new government comes in it’s a huge deal. In a number of situations, the government, the Department of Justice, will decide to change positions. They will say to the court, we were arguing this, we now decided we don’t want to argue that and we therefore withdraw the case or we dismiss the case or we change the rules or we decide to settle.
So here’s a good example. Understand what happens. McCabe is fired. He’s fired by the head of the FBI, this is Andrew McCabe, because he lied. It was found that he lied to the FBI or he lied to the Inspector General. Whatever it was, he’s fired. He loses his pension, but he sues. He files a lawsuit and he sues the Department of Justice and the federal government. Well, the Biden administration comes into office, and what do they do? Well, McCabe is their guy. He was on their side politically. And so what do they do? Well, they settle. And Andrew McCabe, fired for lying – at least that’s what the allegation is.
I don’t think we know all the personnel details, but he certainly was shown by the Inspector General to have lied and he was fired. And he seemed to be a squirrely dude, but whatever. He’s fired. The new administration comes in and says, well, that was a terrible thing. We’ll settle. We’ll give you $700,000 and we’ll restore your pension. Turns out to be a pretty good deal for Andrew McCabe.
And half the time, the lawyers who are opposing… the lawyers who are on opposite sides of the V, as they say, end up working with each other. The people that are working at the law firm where McCabe, I don’t know if this is true, but I can speculate that the law firm that McCabe was using to sue, some of their lawyers have gone to work in the Department of Justice. Doesn’t matter.
That actually is not unethical, not illegal. But it certainly is problematic when you see what you think should be the rule of law and the argument. But again, you have to have a system, right? You can’t have the bureaucrats run on their own. So you have to have a system where the President of the United States becomes the head of the Department of Justice, head of the… Commander in Chief, also, same thing.
Now, what happens to the cases where the ACLU sues the federal government and says the illegal aliens were separated from their kids, we want money? Now that the Biden administration is in, you know what the ACLU says? “We’re going to get some money. We’re going to get really paid.” And the ACLU, by the way, will get their legal fees, too. They’ll negotiate that. And so the federal government is now getting ready to pay illegal aliens. And the leaked number was $450,000 per kid.
So if you are an illegal alien, you come to the border with three kids, you get separated from your kids. You were told not to do that. It’s pretty clear you shouldn’t do it. And you come, you could get $1.3 million. And Joe Biden was asked about it, he said, that’s a garbage number. It’s a garbage number. Well, what he meant was maybe it’s not 450. But you can bet your bottom dollar that you’re going to get people on both sides of the V in this case to come up with a deal that makes everybody rich and pays everybody off.
This reminds me, by the way, of some of the bureaucratic local legal proceedings at the state level, workers compensation and some of the disability cases. You end up with lawyers who are both proponents of disability and workers comp and the guys who are the judges, they call them the administrative law judges who are former lawyers there. And they kind of collude together. They’re like, oh, yeah. We’ll give you a workers comp. Yeah, we’ll give you disability, and we’ll make it easy because it’s not our money. It’s the government’s money, federal or state government. We just let it roll. It’s no big deal. It’s We the People’s money, but it’s not theirs.
So what we know when Joe Biden said the other day, well, that’s a garbage number. 450,000… within an hour, the ACLU said, Well, I don’t know what he’s talking about. His Department of Justice is saying it’s a deal. We’re going to get a deal and that’s within the range. So now probably the Department of Justice is going to go to the ACLU and say, that was dumb. You guys went public. We can’t give you that much. We’ll have to give you 100 grand. If they give illegal aliens $100,000 per kid to come here and break the law…
And remember, if you break the law, if you’re driving and let’s say you’re driving in your car and you have too much to drink and your kid is in the car. When you get pulled over, you know what the cop’s going to do? Separate you from the kid. The kid doesn’t go into the holding tank with you if you got a DWI. Of course not. In other words, when you break the law, you have terminated some of your rights.
Now, the ACLU and others will say “oh no, no, no.. you’re not really breaking the law when you’re an illegal alien.” Well, that’s just, you’re just changing the terms. If you are a law breaker, if you come here illegally, you should not be able to claim money for what we have to do to manage it. We have to do something to manage the system. What you need to know is the power of the government, in this kind of example, it’s almost beyond your knowledge.
And I did a television interview the other day and someone said, oh, well, the Trump White House was corrupt, and the Biden isn’t corrupt. And I wanted to say, no. All of these administrations have so much power that they end up picking winners and losers. And when you’re picking winners and losers, the people who are always the losers end up being the people who don’t have access to the powerful. That’s the way it works. It’s actually just human nature.
But when the Democrats set up this system where they’re going to allow the Department of justice to settle claims by illegal aliens and pay them, the taxpayers are going to pay 100,000, 200,000, 50,000, I don’t know, per kid for breaking the law? It’s a very bad mistake. But I want you to understand what you need to know is that is the system in some ways, that system is what we need. We don’t want to have the Department of Justice be a standalone justice unit.
It has to be led by a President. But we also have to recognize we have far too much power and far too much influence and far too much money in the federal government because they’re picking winners and losers, and they’re picking against us. That’s what you need to know.
All right. We’ll take a break. When we come back, Peter Navarro, the great Peter Navarro, we’ll talk with him. And then later we will visit on the pro life front, we’ll catch up on the pro life front, and our old friend Terry Beatley. Be right back. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report, back in a moment.