The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be together. As usual, we’ve got some great interviews coming up in a few moments. I’ll get to them.
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Hey, later on in the show we’ll talk with Cynthia Hughes. She has organized something called the Patriot Freedom Project to help those people who are rotting in jail over the great hoax, the January 6 hoax. We’ll talk with Cynthia Hughes. I’ve got to know her, she’s extraordinary. And then very pleased, very pleased that we will talk with my old friend Ted Malloch, who’s got another piece over at American Greatness. And I haven’t talked to him in a while, so we’ll talk with Ted.
All right, first, what you need to know. I have to recount for you. Many of you know how much I love books. I love books and I love reading. And I’m so blessed to have had the opportunity, when I was a boy, I got the habit of reading. I also had a father who encouraged me to learn how to read quickly for content, which is a skill. It’s a practiced skill.
And I’m not the fastest reader, but I’m pretty fast, and I’m a good reader. I’m a good reader. And now I’m a really good reader, getting books from publishers and from publicists and trying to figure out whether they’re valuable and interesting and what they have. Every book, by the way, that somebody takes enough time to write gives you some insight. The only question is whether it’s worth reading the whole thing, if you get my point. So no matter what, if somebody takes the time to write a book, there’s something there.
There’s at least one nugget and a lot of times, by the way, a lot of times, by the way, there’s one nugget and they spend the book kind of giving you the context and bringing you around to it. This is true, by the way, in fiction and nonfiction. Well, I went today I went to visit Dean Reuter, who wrote the book, The Last Nazi, which I enjoyed so much. The book, it’s about a Nazi named Kammler, who disappeared after the war, either died by his own hand, suicide. That’s one story. Or maybe was summarily executed by the British, perhaps. Or maybe like a few other Nazis, more than a few, he was allowed to get out and went to South America somewhere.
Anyway. It’s a great book. It’s called The Last Nazi. Dean Reuter and a couple of coauthors and I went to visit him day. Had a cup of coffee. And and so in the course of that, we were talking about the current state of affairs in life and politics and things. He himself is the general counsel at the Federalist Society and Senior Vice President and General Counsel. And his background is as an attorney, obviously, not a historian, or not a historical book writer.
And he then took out off the shelf another book of his, this time he’s the editor, and the book was published in 2016. I’m holding in my hand. It’s called Liberty’s Nemesis: The Unchecked Expansion of the State, and it’s Dean Reuter and John Yoo, a professor over it, I think Bolt Hall at University of California.
Anyway, here’s the problem. He gave me a copy of his book, which is extraordinary. It’s got compilation. It’s a compilation of 26 different essays by everybody from Hans von Spakovsky, who’s been on the program and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, all kinds of different people, including one that I saw. Oh, Peter Kerson, now who is an incredible writer, an interesting guy. Anyway, oh Cleta Mitchell’s in there. Patrick Morrissey, the attorney general of West Virginia, somebody I know through a friend of mine, anyway.
And so he gives me this book and it’s about the growth, as I mentioned, it’s about the expansion of government, the state. I go home, I go back to the office, I mean, and I can’t stop reading it. I go in and I’m looking at these things, I’m going one after another and I’m looking at this and I’m saying, this is so true. And the conversation, here’s what I want to tell you about, what you need to know, because of the way our government, our federal government has grown.
You hear me talk about drain the swamp all the time. And a lot of people associate that with the broken Congress, but actually the size and scope of our federal executive branch, federal government, but the executive branch, and the rulemaking authority and the regulatory authority and the impact they can have. It’s stunning how big it is, how massive it is, how burdensome it is.
And here’s where it’s interesting. As I’m talking to Dean Reuter, he’s telling me, he’s saying, you know Ed, one of the things that people didn’t realize and don’t really realize, you can’t really quantify it, is the legal effect of a change of administration. So he wasn’t talking about the policies, necessarily. We didn’t get into that. He just was talking about the impact of a change from the Trump administration to the Biden administration. And he was listing them.
He was saying, you know, there’s regulatory changes. There’s rulemaking authority, rulemaking changes, there’s executive orders. And his argument, and we were talking about the Congress in this context, was there’s not a lot of oversight and forget which part your’re part of. If you’re a liberal, there’s not a lot of oversight. If you’re a conservative, there’s not a lot of oversight. The question is, who’s watching these incredibly… who’s watching and checking these incredibly overbroad powers? And it’s a fascinating thing.
And what you need to know is that when someone says the deep state, there’s a whole deep state conversation, right? You could talk about the FBI or the CIA or the NSA and all. That’s a different kind of, it’s got a different connotation because of sort of the popularity or the popular depiction now of you know, you got a Clapper on what is it? CNN. And you’ve got Brennan on MSNBC. And you’re like, hey, these guys look like they’re in the sort of intelligence community. Looks like a deep state.
But the bigger problem is not necessarily the deep state. It’s the bureaucratic state. It’s the bureaucratic state that has concentrated such power. And you can pick any area of American life. You could pick education loans, you can pick clean water, you could pick business, the IRS, business taxes, or you can pick I don’t know.
But I’ll pick another one, historical things, or the mineral rights. I mean, you go through a list. Every one of these areas that now touches federal power has had this massive expansion of regulation and of meddling in the power. And the question is, what you need to know, can we get a movement that is sustained, that returns power to We the People and then to the States. Because America’s experiment, that’s so interesting, is that We the People have the sovereignty. You don’t have to go to see the King.
Oh, another example, by the way I talked about last week is patents, the role of the patent office in creating unelected bureaucrats, the PTAB, they call it, these boards that are suddenly in charge of validating or invalidating patents. And patents, You may say, well, I don’t know much about patents. You should know this: patents and the ability for an inventor to control his or her invention and therefore the profits of it. That’s one of the great spurs of American success, the American market economy.
So anyway, but back to this point, as Dean and I were talking. And I came back and I’m reading this book, looking at all these different aspects of American life and saying, how can you have a movement that would sustain…forget what party… It’s a vision of We the People, not the sovereign King, not the oligarch, not the Emperor, not the President. They don’t give us the sovereignty. We have it. And we grant it through the States to the federal government in a limited way.
And that’s the question, how it’s not limited anymore, it’s almost unlimited in the opposite direction. It’s been granted and it’s been abused. And the question again is, how do you sustain a movement that would be returning to We the People, the power and authority over our sovereignty. And in the face of, you know, for example, Trump, President Trump, he appointed a ton of judges, and Biden’s team doesn’t seem to be as focused on judges.
But more importantly, this is where Dean and I were talking, and I’m no expert on it, he wasn’t actually positioning himself as a subject matter expert. He was describing what he was seeing and what he knows from other experts around… is you pick an area, and the Biden administration has dramatically changed course to increase in lots of areas, especially around the green question, whether you’re talking about environmentalism, quote, unquote or green energy and massive shifts in the role of government back in a direction of expansion of the state. It’s a big problem. It’s a big problem.
What you need to know is that’s really the question. When you talk about drain the swamp, you can throw the bums out every four years, every two years, every six years. You can throw them out. You can dream up things like, let’s have term limits for judges and all that, people have that sometimes or age limits on judges. You can throw bums out if you want or you think that’d solve it. That’s not the problem now, the problem is the size and scope of government. I mean, it is a problem, it always is a problem.
We should be fair and say, let’s get more or let’s change out our people. But in this context and in this book is really interesting. Again, the book is called Liberty’s Nemesis, and it’s The Unchecked Expansion of the State. Dean Reuter and John Yoo, Encounter Books. It’s been great. I’ve unfortunately, it took about 3 hours out of my day that I didn’t expect to do, but it’s been really fruitful.
So that’s what you need to know there. We got to come back to that. We got to come back to that. There’s examples that would just blow your doors off. They would just shock you to hear. And we need some more thinking about how to get the American people to understand. And it’s not just, hey, cut my taxes. I don’t want to pay more taxes, which I’m happy to say, my twelve year old son was asking about taxes, and he said, how can it be, dad, that you earn X and you only get to take home half of X. And I was like, welcome to America, son.
And so we’re talking to economics, but it’s a it’s an important thing. It’s a good book. So great fruit of our interview last week with Dean Reuter. All right, we got to take a break everybody. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report, we will be back in a moment.