The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be together as always. And we got a segment of Noah Says later on today, Noah Says with our great Noah Dingley, he has been wrong on the recall, but he’s going to explain himself. So we’ll hear from him.
And we will also get a chance to listen to a man named Jim Robbins. It’s been a long time since Jim has been on the program, but he’s super on the air. He’s a great writer, and we’ll talk with him also.
All right, before we get to either of those, what do you need to know? What you need to know today? What you need to know today is the killing of Down yndrome Babies will lead America to be pro life.
Now wait with me, work with me. It sounds dramatic, that headline, but what you need to know is the left and – I don’t know who. Medical people? I don’t know how you describe who is doing this. They have targeted Down syndrome children and Down syndrome adults. Down syndrome – people with Down syndrome – and said they’re not worth living. It’s not worth having those babies, therefore they should be killed.
And the context as this comes up is that Missouri passed a law a year or two ago and it’s been held up in court by a Liberal federal district court judge and is now up on appeal. And the law basically is protecting babies earlier, kind of a heartbeat bill, a little bit of a hybrid there, but also says you can’t target Down’s kids, can’t target Down syndrome kids.
Here’s my feeling on this: outrage. But also, I have a sort of clinical, I have some distance, even though I get emotional. I want to get emotional. I think it’s a really, really, really disgusting evil thing to do, but I think it will help pro lifers, people that believe babies are lives, babies are human. It’s going to help.
So let me tell you a quick story. A couple of years ago, I was coaching basketball for my sons, both sons, actually, and my daughter. I coach three teams in the 2020. I guess it was 2020 or 2021 – 2021. During a COVID year, I decided to coach because I thought thought we ought to get, make sure… So it was fall of 2020 and into the winter of 2021.
I was worried that our little town would lose its league for sports, so I signed up to coach. Turns out lots of kids wanted to play because they wanted to get out of the house. So for my oldest son, who was, I think, twelve at the time. They had a draft. And so you had to go practice in the gym. And so you want to make the teams relatively even. And so when we got to the draft, though, we had all these players, and I was new. Some of the other coaches had been around, they knew all the players.
But there was one kid who was off the chart, and they said this guy, I’ll call him Stephen (that’s not his real name, because I’ll be a little careful). They said, Stephen, he’s the last player picked. I said, Why is that? And they say he’s Down syndrome kid. I said, oh, really? And they said, yeah, and I said, I’ll take him, I want him. I’m gonna take him as early as I have to to make sure I get him. Because I love Down syndrome kids.
I’ve always had a soft spot for them. I think they’re just they have a certain just quality. I just love them. And so anyway, long story short, we drafted Steven onto our team, and we had a good team. We had some good players. But we also had the best team because we had Steven, and
Steven was so happy, so joyful, he would periodically hit a shot and the crowd would go crazy. We didn’t have any crowds actually, late in the year, I think we had some parents that were allowed to come, but the kids would go crazy. The boys playing against him would be nice to him. It was awesome.
And at the end of the year, the boys gave him the game ball for the year. And actually, I’ll tell you a secret. I loved that kid so much and I love coaching him and I loved that team. I actually bought two game balls. I mean, yeah, two game balls to give a game ball away to the player of the year. I knew they give it to him, but I also had one for me. And I had everybody sign it, including Stephen. I love that kid.
And my point here is the other kids, some of whom were like, like twelve year old kids are they were like, nasty to each other and didn’t follow instructions, didn’t play hard, spoiled… up and down. You know, they were so kind to him on our team and on the other teams, it just brought out a joy in them. It was phenomenal to see.
And so the law in Missouri, Besides being protecting babies during a heartbeat, kind of a heartbeat bill, it also has in it a protection against targeting Down syndrome kids for abortion. And they have had to argue, the other side is arguing how the Down syndrome kids, they’re costly and they’re a burden and all that.
And if you have a family that has a Down syndrome kid… I’m not saying it’s easy, by the way. I’m not saying that there’s not burdens. I’m not saying… the thing that would worry me the most, as I said, as the father of a Down syndrome kid is when I’m gone – how do you take care of them? But you can figure that out. And you’ve got siblings that do it and all.
But the idea that the public face of the opposition to a bill to protect babies is people that are saying, we need to make sure there’s no Down syndrome kids because they’re too much of a burden. That’s a losing position in my mind. I could be wrong, because part of what’s happened in the last 25 or 30 years, as you’ll notice, there’s a lot less Down syndrome kids. So maybe over time, people will not have the experience of Down syndrome kid like I did and my son did and our team did. But I don’t think so. I think they’ll be enough.
In fact, I remember the story. You may remember the story that a listener to the program who listens in Australia, listens as a podcast, great pro life guy. He emailed me and said he and his wife were having their third baby, and the baby came out and it was Down’s. And he said for about 72 hours, he said, we were just stunned. We didn’t know it was coming. And we worried about the future. And he said, and then it’s now like six weeks later, he told me, it’s the greatest thing that ever happened. Total joy. Everybody loves that baby. It’s just great.
So I think if you have a situation where in Missouri, the solicitor general for Missouri is a guy named John Sauer. John Sauer, very good guy, very talented lawyer. I think he went to either Yale or Harvard Law School, but he also clerked for Justice Scalia and just a sharp guy. He’s arguing for the state saying, hey, we should be allowed to limit abortion. We should be allowed to limit the killing of babies if we want, and we should be allowed to limit…
You wouldn’t be able to target Down syndrome adults. It would be against the law. You can’t target somebody that has a disability in a community. If you had somebody that was in a wheelchair, you can’t target wheelchair riders because you don’t like them and they’re too big a burden.
So anyway, so John Sauer’s arguing that case, and I hope and pray it will get lots of attention. And people will see these quotes of people that don’t want to have… that want to be able to target Down syndrome kids, because there’s something wrong with targeting any baby for killing.
But it also lends itself pretty easily to what are you going to do next? Are you going to say that people that have diabetes, you know, the juvenile diabetes, which you probably can test for in utero pretty soon? If you can’t already. Are you going to say that somebody who’s got a congenital heart defect, these people are burdens, burdens on our system. Shouldn’t we eliminate them earlier? Shouldn’t we only allow what someone, who Dr. Fauci, will tell us is the perfect baby?
So you got to send your baby. Send your, you have to do an early test, send it up to Fauci and the team, they’ll tell you if that baby is allowed to be born? Is that where we’re headed?
Because Down syndrome kids are not a burden in the same way that you could say, if someone, you could make an argument, someone would make an argument say, oh, we’re looking at this ultrasound. The baby’s got only one lung. It’s got all these abnormalities only going to live for a week or two and blah, blah, blah. And I still don’t agree with it. But you could say the only medical outcome is going to be lots of surgery and all that – that doesn’t have with Down syndrome kids. They have a shorter life expectancy, but not, what they mean is they don’t like kids that aren’t the same and they don’t like people that aren’t the same as them. So watch that.
And hopefully, hopefully and prayerfully, we say, hey, if you’re gonna be targeting Down’s kids, you’re gonna lose, because people love those kids. They shine with joy. And I know it because I had one on my team. It was awesome. It was awesome. So watch for that. And we’ll see what happens. All right? And that was in the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals out in Missouri. I put up on social media when I can find some articles on that.
They argued that case a few days ago. So it’ll be another, I don’t know, a couple of months before this decision could go up to the Supreme Court after that. But kudos to John Sauer, the Missouri Solicitor General, for arguing that.
And for the Missouri State Legislature, I did an interview early in the day, today. Missouri has had a great tradition, back to John Ashcroft when he was Attorney General of the state of Missouri and Governor of the state of Missouri. They had great pro life fights, fighting for life. Really well done.
Alright, we’ll take a break, everybody. We’ll be right back. It’s Ed Martin here in the Pro America Report, back in a moment.