The following is a transcript of the first segment of the Pro America Report.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. And we have a ton to cover today. Let’s get to it again.
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Okay, well, what you now know during about nine minutes fromnow, when I’m done with this, you will know all there is to know about this key moment in history and an aspect of what’s going on.
And as per usual, I will rely for a big chunk of this on the great Julie Kelly. Julie Kelly, who writes at American Greatness, AmGreatness.com Her Twitter handle is @Julie_Kelly2, @Julie_Kelly2. You should follow her on Twitter, you should check on Twitter just to see what she’s up to.
She not only sort of collates all of the writing on January 6th and COVID and the election and politics in general, but she takes on the right Twitter nitwits and she pokes holes in them.
And so today I was reading her a number of times, and I have to bring this to you. This is really super important because she has identified… And so, a couple of days ago I had some – I read someone – I don’t know where, I read someone, I didn’t hear it said,
I read someone who said, What’s the difference between the gulag in the Soviet era? The gulag? They would send people to the gulag. If you were a loud mouth or you did something that wasn’t in favor with the Communist regime, you were sent to the gulag. I think in Communist China, you get sent out with the Uyghurs or wherever.
But that was the term – the Gulag. And it was sort of popularized and there probably were other prisons and other places of work camps and things. But that’s what you’d say.
So I read someone writing something like the gulag in America might well be getting arrested after January 6th for, at worst, a misdemeanor and being put into DC prisons and forced to wait there with no trial, no speedy trial, no nothing.
And when I read that, I thought that’s pretty interesting. You know, the idea that we have political opponents, people that protested on January 6th and 99.9% of the half a million or a million people, whatever number it was –
I’ve never heard seriously, because I wonder if you’ve said there was a million people there and there was 99.999% didn’t break any laws, just went and waved their flags and went home.
But the point .00001%, that maybe broke trespass laws and didn’t, it’s hard to picture how they expected, how the media and the big government wants you to believe that they had an insurrection planned with no weapons and no plan. They just were there.
But anyway, the people are being targeted for attending a free speech, free association, free expression event. Again with 99.99999% of people waved their flags and walked in the cold and went home.
And if they were like me, they were somewhat disappointed, to be honest, at the level of the rhetoric. And, you know, President Trump didn’t have a, it sort of felt like it was a valedictory to me. If you were there, and I was there.
But what Julie Kelly has identified and what the writer who’s name fails me now who said, “what about the gulag?” Julie Kelly has honed in on how it’s completely acceptable in the legal system right now to arrest people on perhaps trespass, maybe less, and then keep them rotting in prison.
And no one is upset, not the ACLU, not the Republicans in Congress. A few people have said something. There’s not protesting in the street. There’s no Amnesty International. If this were happening in another country, I think Amnesty International would be there.
And so here we come down to a former federal prosecutor in this office, in DC where this is happening. His name is Glenn Kirschner. He’s being interviewed by a guy named Scott MacFarlane, who is with NBC 4, which is a Washington, DC, NBC affiliate.
And this guy, MacFarlane is also a host on a SiriusXM or something. I don’t know. MSNBC also maybe.
And so MacFarlane is interviewing this guy, Glenn Kirschner. And Kirschner says in the interview, people are getting what they deserve and it is impactful. It is terrible. It is suffering. It is terrifying. But that’s what they deserve. They deserve it because they participated in this process in the January 6th.
A federal prosecutor on TV in public saying, “Yes, the prisons are terrible. And Yes, the people arrested deserve it. And they’re going to be in rotten positions and terrifying things. And it’s going to be a huge shock and we shouldn’t care because they deserve it.”
And as Julie Kelly points out, isn’t there something in this country called innocent until proven guilty? I mean, isn’t there any respect for the rule of law?
And if there’s not respect for the rule of law because you can target your political opponents, which is what it sounds like. It doesn’t just sound like — it is. It’s targeting political opponents because you don’t like them.
You don’t like the political opponents, therefore you target them and you not only target them in the media, mocking them and belittling them and saying that they’re wrong headed, if not worse, you’ll malign them and say that they’re insurrectionist, even if they’re just protesting.
And then if you can, you put them in prison and you don’t just arrest them and charge them and make them come prove their innocence. You arrest them and charge them and jail them in very, very abhorrent facilities and in a way that is terrifying to them.
And you take advantage of that. And you say, “Oh, well, they deserved it.” Now perhaps we’ve come full circle. the abuse of power in our justice system.
And maybe if you’re out there and you’re a criminal justice advocate, you say, “Where have you been?” And you could say even to people like me, you could say, you know, there’s people that broke laws like drugs or something, and they end up in jail too long.
And we haven’t had reform. And my answer would be “okay, except it was President Trump that signed a lot of a big federal law that changed the dynamic for people in that situation, at least as the federal law.
It was Attorney General Kamala Harris in California who enforced a lot of the drug laws against the people there. Again, hypocrisy is not a distinguishing characteristic in politicians. They all do it. But let’s be real about it.
I’m very open to the point of view that we have some laws that are unevenly enforced. But I’ll tell you, the hypocrisy of the media and the left, the sort of civil liberties left. It’s insane. It’s insane because all you can think of when you see it is they don’t think, well, that they’re fascists.
They don’t think that it could ever happen to them because they’re so righteous.
And frankly, this is the fruit of nearly four years of telling the world that Donald Trump was Hitler. When there was no evidence of that, there was none. There was no evidence of race…
You know, Donald Trump is a lot of things, a loud mouth, mostly, but he’s not a racist. His policies didn’t show it. His personal life didn’t show it. He’s not an anti-semite. His family is Jewish. He supported Israel.
They’re pretty good. Israel is pretty good at spotting anti-semites, by the way. If you ask the Israelis, they know an anti-semite when they see one, they were pretty happy with Donald Trump.
But for three and a half, almost four years, the media and Big Tech and Big Government, the Mueller Report mostly, but also Adam Schiff and the Lying Schiff and all these folks in the intelligence committee that we’re lying.
I think I told you. A member of Congress told me he went down to one of these skiffs, these secure rooms where he was briefed early on in the Russia, Russia, Russia and about Flynn specifically. And this congressman said, I can’t tell you the specifics, and I can’t talk publicly about it because I’m forbidden to… But it was a clear setup, and Flynn is innocent.
And he said, Adam Schiff is lying all over the place. But, you know, those guys lied. And it was weaponized by media, weaponized by Big Tech, weaponized by Big Government, Mueller, Adam Schiff and others.
And now here we are where you can use the legal system against the American people, and you can have federal prosecutors on TV bragging about it, bragging about it.
That’s what we have. And Julie Kelly points it out. And here’s the thing – this is gulag stuff, disagreeing with someone’s political position and therefore punishing them.
It has two effects. One, it destroys a person, which should matter. It should matter, in America. It should matter.
And two, sends a message to the rest of the country, “Don’t take that position, or you’ll end up like that guy. You’ll end up like that woman.” You’ll end up in a position where a former federal prosecutor will brag on television and say, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. They got a really tough situation. Really bad prisons, really rotten. It’ll be tough for them. But that’s what you get. That’s what you deserve.
You weren’t convicted, you weren’t even tried. You haven’t had due process, and you’re trapped because you don’t like their position? And it’s not even… nobody is doing, there’s no violence here. There’s nobody charged with violence. It’s maybe trespass.
And what, are they calling it like disruption with official duties. Give me a break. Somebody should disrupt the official duties of Congress more often, in the sense that the more they’re doing is more trouble.
All right, everybody, we got to take a break. When we come back, we got a lot to cover. We will visit with my well, actually, tonight I did talk earlier tonight on Andrea Kaye’s show with Mickey Kaus. I wish I could have him back on this one, but he was tied up. So we’ll get him later on.
Jim Hanson’s on though. Jim Hanson’s got a book out, and the book is really good. It’s called Winning the Second Civil War. I’m about two thirds of the way through, we’ll talk with him.
And then David Horowitz is back. Our old friend, David Horowitz. He will be on fire, I’m sure. So we’ll talk to him in a few.
Alright everybody, we’ll take a break and be right back. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report, back in a moment.